ICOM from Automags.org is currently selling…..
ICOM from Automags.org is currently selling…..
Red to clear fade CnC Xmag on Facebook…
my business has been slow, had to borrow some cash. time to pay the piper. have already sold my viking, and my other treasured pb markers. i held on as long as I could to this one. but the lenders are calling and i need to pay up.
one off Xmag, built by JOhn Loguzzo, yes he knows I am selling it. this is one of the hardest things I have had to liquidate. MOTM and MOTY winner 2012, this thing is by far my favorite EVER paintball marker I have owned. I am selling this all together as a complete package, i dont have the time to sit here and part all of this stuff. there is one complete xvalve, the rest of the valves are bodies, some may have parts some dont. the other is an Xvalve valve body, no rear internals. there are tons of mag parts in these 3 bins of stuff. everything in the picture is included in this sale.
I am asking 3200 for everything pictured.
2500 for the mag
600 for the rest of the goodies.
thanks, hopefull it will go to a good home. has not been shot in a few years, will need a tune up.
Up for sale is my Black to Red Xmag.
Full Freak Kit with All American Tip.
$850.00 o.b.o Paypaled Includes Shipping
Will ship after Paypal has Cleared.
$1000 shipped USPS Priority and PayPaled. Additional insurance, signature required at delivery, etc. will be extra. No trades. No parting.
-Dust Black X-Mag: Everything works as it should, including ACE. See pictures. I tried to capture all the tiny blemishes. The camera wouldn’t focus on some, especially the ones around the back where the valve is inserted into the body, but they are no worse than the others pictured.
-X-Mod 1.8 with Programmer/Applications/Files/USB Cable: All applications/files will be e-mailed to the buyer. The various files change the trigger pulls per second required to activate the ramping modes.
-Battery (holds a charge well), Car charger, and Wall Charger
-Level 10 Spare Parts (as pictured)
-Misc Parts: trigger magnets, battery savers, quad o-ring (as pictured)
-Check It Drop Forward: See pictures for scratches and poor filing job to eliminate rear sharp overhang when ASA was mounted.
-CP Mini On/Off ASA
Videos and links to feedback from various sites available upon request.
This item was bought in a lot of other paintball items. Last time it was tested it worked great!
It comes with the car charger, the adaptor you plug the battery in. The battery does hold a charge very well and it has a switch to turn the battery on. I can include a predator board for an additional $50
$850 shipped OBO
“AGD Xmag. If you don’t know the history do the research. Arguably the most desirable mag ever produced behind the sfl. Less than 500 produced. This has got to be the nicest fade Anno one I have acquired. Functions flawlessly. Took me years to hunt one down in this condition. This marker will provide a lifetime of joy. Spend your tax return on something you will love.
In July 2012 I saw a post from Bolter on AO, selling a lot of three Xmags from the UK. I quickly recognized the “parts” xmag and made a full price offer plus shipping to the US.
This xmag reminded me of a picture from 2002 at the campaign cup with the same grip frame milling and it looked like it was from the same batch of Euro Xmags that John Sosta milled back in 2002.
I spoke with Vicki (the seller who played on John’s team) and she stated that this gun may have been used at the Campaign Cup the same year all of the early Warpig pictures of the Xmags came out.
While patiently waiting for my xmag to go through customs I decided to create a parts list and track down the hard to find items on automags.org
Battery / Battery Pack with milling
PMI Perfect Bore Barrel
Bob Long ASA
Orange LED Screen
I contacted a handful of machinist, but most of them had crazy timelines for completion. I reached out to Renie from AO and asked if he could “recreate” the John Sosta pack from the old warpig picture I had. He said he was able to get it pretty close so I decided to ship out an extra battery housing I had in my stockpile of parts to europe. While he was working on the battery housing I continued my search for parts.
Luckily, SSP Reaper found my WTB thread and hooked me up with a PMI Perfect Bore barrel, the same barrel that all the Euro Xmags had when they first came out. It always seems like this part is one of the hardest parts to find anymore. Most are stainless steel or ceramic so I was excited to see that he had one for me.
I also reached out to Tunaman to get the Vert and Warp breaches for the set-up. Breaches are also really hard to find so I knew this would be one of the more expensive costs for the build. Unfortunately, when they arrived I realized that the Vert breach did not have the CnC milling on it.
I contacted Luke@lukecustoms and he was able to work out the milling on the vert breach. He needed to see the Xmag body for the body lines. I decided to package of both the Xmag body, CnC Warp breach, and the gripframe. Once Luke was finished with the milling he was going to forward the package to Tunaman so he could remove the steel body insert and gripframe stud for anodizing.
While that was going on I found the rest of the parts on Mcarterbrown, AO, and pbnation. Digikey had yellow screens in stock so I ordered one to complete the build. I really had my heart set for an orange, but with a minimum order of 1000 screens I had no choice. Luckily the yellow screens look orange anyway.
Luke finished up the milling and sent over the parts to Tunaman. A few weeks later I recieved my package. Everything looked great from Luke and Tunaman, except I was missing the black warp breach I sent over with the body so luke could match the lines correctly. Unfortuantely, Luke and Tunaman were not able to find the part in their shops so I was **** outta luck. I take their words for it, but I was pretty bummed my $100 breach vanished into thin air.
I reached out to AGD direct to buy another “CnC” warp left breach and when I finally got it, I opened it up and realized that it STILL DID NOT HAVE THE CNC MILLING. Lol.
Renie sent me a message saying the milling was complete. I was super excited to get it back. When the package arrived I quickly opened it up and attempted to put the battery pack back together. Sure enough I forgot to tell Renie that the battery pack actually sits a certain way, it was not interchangable because of the screws that hold the pack together. I was a bit bummed since he did such a great job “recreating” the battery housing.
Once I assembled the Xmag it wasn’t as bad as I thought it was and actually started to like the look of the inverted waves. It looked like they were swooping down towards the unique grip frame milling that John did on it. It may look a bit rough in the pictures, but after a bit of polishing I knew it would look great.
After I collected the rest of the parts I went online to find an anodizer. No one seems to be very reliable anymore. I went on pbnation and stumbled on a user named “xsvdynastypballa” that was custom anodizing his own guns in the Custom Guns section. I really liked his finishes and decided to take a leap of faith to get my marker done by him.
I sent him an e-mail and we started talking about the process of finishing up the John Sosta Xmag. I really wanted to keep the original tequila fade, but wanted some depth to it. Xsvdynastypballa a.k.a Stephen showed me some work he did in the past and I gave him the creative green light to finish my marker. I still needed a little bit of custom work to finish up the warp breach to have the same milling lines as the xmag. Luckily he had the ability to do straight cuts and could handle it for me.
I went ahead and packaged and labeled the parts and shipped them off to texas.
Within a day of receiving my parts he quickly stripped off the anodizing and started polishing. While polishing the marker the buffer slipped out of his hands and nicked the custom milled battery pack that Renie worked on. He sent pictures of what had happened and let me know the results. Even though it sucks to get that e-mail I was glad he let me know about it.
A couple days later I receive a few pictures of the marker. I was blown away by the results. The dark tequila sunrise fade was amazing, it looked like the black was dripping off the marker. You could tell he hand polished each piece to perfection.
A few more days go by and Stephen shows me the finished product. It was exactly what I wanted. We closed out the deal and it was ready to be sent back home.
The marker spent a couple days in the mail, but I was finally reunited with the marker. The finish was top notch. Stephen couldn’t of done a better job. The Xmag was really beat up yet he still made it look like it was a custom finish from AGD. Each part looked like he truly took the time and put all of his hard work into it. I can’t even describe how smooth the polishing is. The nick on the battery pack didn’t really matter, it was blended with the anodizing and when I screw together all of the battery pieces it was a snug fit.
I’ve used many anodizers in the past to finish my mags, Precisionpb, gruntbull, lasermygun, Tonsixer, PK Selective, but Caustic Customs (Stephan’s new company) had the best communication out of all of them. He really treated the project like his own. He took pride in his work and was vocal if he had any questions about the xmag.
I decided to attempt to take a picture of this marker in a light tent I made and snap a few pictures with my iphone 5. It was so hard to take a good picture of this marker though. The colors were so deep and every angle seem to reflect and shine the light.
Through all of the problems with the marker I never felt pissed, I realized I contacted all the right guys for the job. And they all worked hard to get this marker to look as good as it does. It was a fun experience tracking down all of the parts and talking with Stephen about the finishing. The marker is still not 100% with the electronics, but i’m waiting for a few more projects to come back from anodizing before I send it to an expert.
I just wanted to say thanks to Vicki, John, Bolter, Renie, Tunaman, Luke, Stephen @ Caustic Customs, SSP Reaper, and everyone else who hooked me up with parts for this build.
A-Tach-One was a former X-mag collector, until he got out of the mag collecting business. It was quite impressive how many SFLs and Xmags he had accumulated over the years. We give him credit with figuring out the slight differences in each batch of Xmags AGD put out…
G. Knight has a great collection of X-mags. We figured that we needed to create his own page to show off some of his Xmags…
These pictures are from the first batches for RobAGD @ Pev’s Note that a few had duel detents on the breach.
A+ Anodizing worked on the first batch of X-mags that were released to the public. We believe that this group falls into the valve range from XT00100 through XT00115. The clear to pink X-mag looks like the X-Kitty and the blue to dark blue looks like Josh Silverman’s from PB2X. If you have anymore information about this batch feel free to comment below!!
Below are custom made X-mags from A+ Anodizing, we believe these were NOT apart of the original batch.
: E Mag and X Mag
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OK Guys, I checked with Bob (RKL) and he is happy with me to show you some pics off the mill of his custom gun. The gun is in the raw so it’s hard to see some of the work due to cuttermarks which will be gone when it is anno’d.
This gun is I believe a first off in the World Of Paintball gun’s ever! Why? Let me tell you about a process called ‘scanniing’
Bob had a wall plaque of a face image that was about the size of a dinner plate. He wanted something similar to commemorate his time spent in England (he’s from Canada as you can tell from the gun ) on his gun.
So we scanned in this wall decoration to make a virtual CAD file of it as an STL. I then manipulated this and shrunk it and embedded it into the side of the gun. We then recut this smaller version in the gun. It stands out proud like a real face. This process of reverse engineering is making huge waves in the CAM industry and has phenomenal potential, I work with it to do everything from full cars to small decorations.
It’s the first time I’ve heard of it being done to a paintball gun.
I’ll copy in some of an e-mail I sent Bob so you know other custom features I made into this body/gun.
“The Canadian Contingent (edit~ a Team Bob and I play for) patch is represented by the battery pack with an ‘A’ and tiny maple leaf in each corner and one large one in the middle, and you have finger dents on the front of the pack.
The body has the sides cut flat to make it lighter but it still covers the valve as much as possible. You have a C&C top site rail and front top. You have a special fillet and negative swish on the rear corners. You have the Bath Image milled as a proud (as a normal person’s) face (but in the body so protected from damage) on both sides. You have a Big maple leaf on both sides (edit~ which sculpts around the curved body).
The grip frame has the second finger recess. The cut down back strap and button locations. And it has the front finger grooves.”
DISCLAIMER: This is a custom gun done for Bob. It is not something you can currently buy from AGD or AGDE. It is something I did for a friend of mine. Having me do custom work on your gun can/may void your AGD warrantee if they haven’t approved it before hand. I do not work for AGD, I just have helped them before on some milling projects.
OK so now to the pictures. Please respect what is in this thread, to be honest neither I nor Bob cares if you like it so negative comments can be kept to yourselves please. The important thing for me is that Bob likes it and that it reminds him of a good stay in England once he returns to his native Canada.
OK Guy’s here are the anodised pictures of Bob’s gun. Been a while coming because Bob doesn’t have a digital camera and I only just got chance to visit him and take the pictures.
Lots of pictures to do this thing justice.
This is the first of it’s kind, there are techniques used on this gun that are ‘State of the Art’ within CAD/CAM let alone paintball gun milling
It was made as a one off custom for Bob who is a friend of mine and a life long AGD fan.
Oh yeah it’s on a rock… (actually on a stone cottage wall )
Nice of Bob to keep it so clean don’t you think?
Created for Brad Palooza of 720 paintball videos. He had Tunaman engrave his X-mag with the custom 720 logo. Link to AO thread.
Made for Butch from AGD pride to match his guitar.
The “magma” X-mag came out around November 2003. They were suppose to be sold at an event that didn’t pan out. The original price was $1200. They were bought and sold a few times and finally fell into the hands of two automags.org regulars.
This is the Xmag that Manike decided to pick up for himself. One of the first Xmags on automags.org
The RKL X-mag was made by Manike for a friend. Goto the RKL page for more details.
(3) SEAO Special Edition X-mags released around 11-18-03. Tom Kaye was to personally sign each X-mag at the event. Check out the AO thread for more info….
(3) 1 Purple, 1 Pewter, 1 Black Shater Xmags in existence. They were created for William Shatner for his scenerio events he played. They were auctioned off for a good cause.
William Shatner also used a Gloss Black X-mag as well. It was auctioned off to AOer that had to pawn it for cash.
There was also a Pewter Shatner X-mag for Mancow.
X-mag used by Claire Benavides. Professional paintball player that used to play on teams such as AGD Pride and Femme Fatales.
And because I’m biased…. lol… Custom John Sosta gripframe Xmag. Click here for a full outline of the build.
The CnC Prototype was modeled after a motorbike saddle/fairing and takes 5 oz off the 11 oz body!
Parts look very different once polished and annodised. It was amazing with the C&C how many people didn’t like it as a raw prototype but then loved it once polished and annodised. And also how many more people liked it once they saw it in real life rather than just in pictures.
Quite amazing really. And one reason I am not an advocate of showing prototype work too early on here anymore.
Also it sucks for you guys to see stuff so early in the prototype stages and expect to see it out the next month when in reality that just isn’t how it works.
This was designed, based on an Idea from Bill Mills from Warpig, at the World Cup 2001. It was designed live on the AGD stand 🙂 People walking passed saw it developing!
AGD also came up with the Standard “STD” design. This was the unmilled version of the X-mag. When the X-mags first came out AGDE was also converting old E-mags into “Xtremes” as a body kit conversion.
Below are a few CAD files that Manike posted on automags.org They were used as templates for the fantasy e-mag build that Tom put on….
Airgun Designs came out with a variety of CnC (Cut and Carved) Xmags. Each batch of Xmags have slight differences between them.
**I would like to thank A-Tach-One for the X-mag listing posted over on pblegion.com